So a certain person, who will not be named, dropped by to say hi today. The unnamed person, filled with Rams history and lore, imparted on me a LIST. A list that in times past has caused social upheaval, riots, cats and mice to become friends, Sarah Palin making out with Joe Biden... We're talking anarchy!
I've always found his lists as interesting as they are brutal. What I have found interesting is that many of his choices wound up being rather prescient. Have a look after the break, and I bet you figure out the name of the list's author...
I'm sure relieved that the 2011 Ram season is behind us. I'm sooo glad BD/Spags is defunct. And I think we did ok snaring Fisher as HC. A lot of deadbeat players will still have to be cut, but Fish and the new coaching crew may be able to salvage and develop a few of the younger under-achievers. And, I hope they can find a way to keep Lloyd.As far as the draft goes, I'm in a quandry. We badly need a good LT, but after the terrific failures with Barron and Smith I'm wary of picking Kalil. And after Avery, I'm wondering if Blackmon is big enough. Maybe we can work out a trade to get more early picks that can be spent on quality O-linemen, DT's and OLB's. We also need to be grooming SJax' replacement. Anyway, for the 1st time in several years I'm expecting the Rams to have a decent draft.I hear V Jackson is back on the radar as a potential WR. How many times have we heard that one before? Now he's 29. If we keep stringing this one along he'll be ready for retirement when we finally procure him. The Rams need to get younger instead of older.Somebody needs to do a **** or Cut list on TST this year and include: King, both Gibsons, both Jasons, Bell, Robbins, Poppinga, Norwood, Butler, drugee Pettis and the chronically or permanently injured DX, Clayton, Hoom, Fletcher, and Bartell. I like Bartell, but I can't find ANY data on a player ever returning to the NFL at 100% after suffering a broken neck. Therefore, his huge salary is prohibitive.That's about it. Hope things are going well. I'm already looking forward to April and beyond.My complete **** List would also include; Bajema (bad, bad...), Feeley (who needs him with Clemens around), Josh Brown (his big leg is dead, but huge salary still intact), Sims and Darrell Scott (never-weres that've been on the payroll too long). I'm also a little leary of Craig Dahl and Kehl too. I gave some of the newer, less well known guys (Gordy, Chamberlain, Clemens) for example) a pass because they may benefit greatly from improved coaching. We'll see.I'm a bit concerned about James Hall too. He played decent in 2011, but he could finally age out this year just like Fred Robbins did this year. Quinn should be ready to go fulltime this fall anyway.You are absolutely right about the CB position. Right now we're relying on TWO badly injured players returning to form and that the injured and unproven Jerome Murphy can actually play ball.It's good to know that I'm still thought of around TST occasionally.Thanks,*******
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Bradley Fletcher is a good player and I like Hall for another year as depth.
Other than that, this team has a plethora of “deadbeat” players.
Joe Mazzi - February 4, 2012
I wish Hall was 5 years younger. What a great player. We need more guys that try as hard as he does
I like Fletcher too. But a second ACL injury on the same knee…? Maybe I’m just shell shocked by all the injuries at CB we had in 2011? I’m more worried FOR Bartell, than about him.
Douglas M - February 4, 2012
I agree about Bartell.
He’s another one of those guys that you HAVE to root for, having been a Ram since the beginning of their latest crap era, not even mentioning his awful injury.
Joe Mazzi - February 4, 2012
Any injury that has the words "Broken" and "Neck" in the description worries me.
It’s the same kind of worry I have for DX. The kid has a long life ahead of him, and his knee is never going to be right. Crying shame if he ends up in a wheelchair
Douglas M - February 4, 2012
Broken vertebrae and two ACL tears make the return of Bartell and Fletcher unlikely
Plan on spending a pretty high draft pick at CB.
JHaier - February 4, 2012
I hate to say it, but you may very well be right!
Douglas M - February 5, 2012
Exactly
look closer - February 5, 2012
ITS RAMCHOP !!!!!!!!!
whats up RAMCHOP, your role playing as jswirb has peeps going nuts round here. they dont see it like i do……. wassssup RAMCHOP, welcome back you grumpy old bastard
DevsLaRams - February 4, 2012
you do know that my first jswirb sighting occured
shortly after Ramchop was expelled… coincidence? i think not
DevsLaRams - February 4, 2012
I can personally guarantee that RamChop is not jswirb
Douglas M - February 4, 2012
agreed
opposite ends of the OCD spectrum.
dbcouver - February 4, 2012
Wait....
is RamChop your alter ego? =D
thisguy - February 4, 2012
Ramchop?
Doesnt even sound like him without all the negativity and years of disappointment in his posts. Its actually nice to hear what he thinks about whats going on even though i still think hes a prick.
Hibachi40 - February 4, 2012
lol I can neither cofirm of deny your guess (wink) lol
All issues aside, RamChop knows his football. I’m not saying I agree with some of the things he’s written, but he was always interesting and he cracked me up.
Douglas M - February 4, 2012
I'll second that notion!
But you are right, I’d like to hear what Ramchop has to say if only for entertainment purposes.
Come on Ramchop, whatca got?
Go Rams!
Nbr1RamFan - February 4, 2012
Nice post but....
Ron Bartell and Bradley Fletcher need to stay. If Bartell is released, Courtland Finnegan has to be signed. I would rather have Dewayne Bowe than Vincent Jackson. The aging veterans need to go. I think there will be alot of turnover on the roster because Fisher and Williams want their type of players and not try hard guys with limited skills that Spags likes
Jballa2005 - February 4, 2012
Would agree.
Bowe would be my #1 option as far as FA WR’s. Hopefully the Chiefs don’t lock him up.
modano9 - February 4, 2012
Sounds like the Chop minus some negativity. That and I assume "The List" is the Chop List
I may not have always liked what he said but he did have some good opinions. I’d take him any day over a certain other controversial member who I’ll leave nameless. Although I don’t know how Chop enjoyed being a fan without a shred of optimism to carry him through.
RamFan284 - February 4, 2012
Who is it? Who is it!? WHO IS IT!?!?
Joe Mazzi - February 4, 2012
I AM NO TELLING YOU CAUSE I AM ALWAYS RIGHT!
AsK ONE OF MY MaNY FrIENdS WhO ReSPEcT MY OpiNIoNS! OH, AnD WE NEeD A BIG NAME RECEIVER LIKE RANDEE MOSS OR TEREL OWNS OR PLEXICO BURES. BUT NO WAY IT EVER HAPPENS!
RamFan284 - February 4, 2012
Haha well done.
Joe Mazzi - February 4, 2012
Thanks. I figured those were enough clues to figure it out.
RamFan284 - February 4, 2012
Karate........karate chop list
Final answer
DCRamFan - February 4, 2012
Ah grasshopper, you see all! lol
Douglas M - February 4, 2012
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Doug, any friendship we have took a hit that you turned to this guy for an article. However, I do agree with most of what he said. If we made these cuts and work the cap, could we bring in VJax and Finnegan? Even if those are the only two we can add in FA, 2 impressive players is better than 10 D players (something BD didn’t get
King Sam Rules! - February 4, 2012 via mobile
And Bowe would be fine with me instead of VJax
King Sam Rules! - February 4, 2012 via mobile
I'm more okay with He-who-shall-not-be-named's opinions
than I am with the picture for the article. That dude nearly scared me away.
Joe Mazzi - February 4, 2012
Agreed
King Sam Rules! - February 4, 2012 via mobile
LOL!!!! It cracked me up! After seeing to dorks the CVC used for a $124 mil proposal, I figured TST needed a dork of our very own!
Douglas M - February 4, 2012
Looks like he has a fur ball.
ramdude - February 4, 2012
For the final Rams games you could tell that Bradford was homed in on Loyd on every passing play and that he was the only credible threat. Even with everyone know this, Loyd managed to catch some balls. Getting Loyd back and signing Vincent Jackson/Bowe. along with the return of Bradford’s favorite dump-off receiver Amendola, would seriously upgrade our offense. The opposing D couldn’t just focus on S-Jax and Loyd
Barflies - February 4, 2012
Don't forget >>> SALAS
VETT - February 5, 2012
KSR, people are deeper than just what they say on this site. If you knew the guy better, you'd know there is more to him
Don’t gauge your like or dislike of a person based on a single aspect of their life. I take in all kinds of data, and sift through what I agree with or don’t. No matter what, I’m always open to learn, and I’m always ready to know if what I have learned may not be as right as I thought. You’re a great young guy KSR. Reserve hatred as a very rare card to play. Hopefully you’ll never truly find the need…
Douglas M - February 4, 2012
No, I'll go ahead and hate that dude
If you can’t respect other people in one aspect of your life, I don’t care what you’re doing in the other aspects
King Sam Rules! - February 4, 2012 via mobile
ok
Douglas M - February 4, 2012
No. Don't go there...
Eric Nagel - February 4, 2012 via mobile
not a fan of hate myself
But Ramchop was one of a few people who made it easy to hate him.
KSR was constantly attacked by Chop on this site and I’d say he has grounds to dislike him.
Essentially, imo, someone needs to earn the second chance to appreciate them and Chop never did, so it seems that unfortunately his complexities and positive side have been locked away by his more overt douchebaggery.
Infemous - February 5, 2012 via mobile
Agree with most of the cuts, but not cutting Fletcher and Bartell. They have too much to offer at a key position and sports medicine is getting better. They are talking about Peyton playing again and he has had multiple surgeries on his neck and a piece of metal inserted. Forgive me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe Bartell has ever had neck surgery. If they get injured again next year, then cut them.
Barflies - February 4, 2012
Don't see the argument against Vincent Jackson.
29 is plenty young for top WRs.
Abrantes - February 4, 2012
The DUIs would be the red flag, but seems to me he is worth the risk
Barflies - February 4, 2012
Sounds more like Edpjr than his alter ego
Demonstrates why Ed and I got along much better.
dbcouver - February 4, 2012
this haha
This post does still remind me that the dude must’ve had serious issues to create 2 accounts (at least) and deny it and converse with himself…
Not judging btw just musing over it tbh
Infemous - February 5, 2012 via mobile
this haha
This post does still remind me that the dude must’ve had serious issues to create 2 accounts (at least) and deny it and converse with himself…
Not judging btw just musing over it tbh
Infemous - February 5, 2012 via mobile
BTW I couldn't think of a better way to humiliate myself than by wearing one of those norn hats.
dbcouver - February 4, 2012
h
dbcouver - February 4, 2012
I wasn't going to tell them that was you! Cat's out of the bag!
Douglas M - February 4, 2012
I thought it was Sergey! AAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!
dbcouver - February 4, 2012
Though I agree he has some knowledge of football
I disagree with having a baned members post be anywhere near this site.
Brick Top - February 4, 2012
He didn't even know I posted it. It was in an e-mail he sent to me.
It was a slow news day, and I thought this would be interesting in a “Where are they now” kind of way.
Douglas M - February 4, 2012
"banned"
JHaier - February 4, 2012
I'm so sorry I forgot a "n" please forgive me
Brick Top - February 5, 2012
Oh, shit.
turpinforpresident - February 4, 2012
Yup! That's what Chop will say when I tell him I posted his e-mail to me! lol
Douglas M - February 4, 2012
Me as soon as i realized
turpinforpresident - February 4, 2012
lol
Douglas M - February 4, 2012
im gonna sound like such a newb but...
whos jswirb?
Hibachi40 - February 4, 2012
Besides Van the most hated person on the board, LOL
You are reaping a whirlwind son. Just walk away..
Da Rookie - February 4, 2012
Van's the most hated? When did that happen?
RamFan284 - February 4, 2012
It's just him. Van's the most respected guy here
He just says it to get attention
Douglas M - February 4, 2012
you had to ask...
he’s a troll who cant spell, uses way too much caps lock, always has dumb opinons, is a know it all, and always says i told you so. i think that sums it up
unleash-the-beast#39 - February 4, 2012 via mobile
lol ok i get it now
he’s the new ramchop, funny ive never seen a post from him.
Hibachi40 - February 4, 2012
He doesn't post
only comments
Brick Top - February 5, 2012
All the rams need to do!!!
trade steven jackson for a 3rd round pick draft trent Richardson with the first pick and with the secound pick take Alshon Jefferys with the second pick and with other picks fix the D and the Oline what do you think!!!!!!
ramsga - February 4, 2012 via Android app
Not so much
turpinforpresident - February 4, 2012
Off topic, and more SB related
did anyone happen to see the comparison (in salary) between the Pats and Giants defenses? The NYG D’s starting 11 makes just over $40mil combined, and the Pats starting 11 makes just over $18mil. If you take out Shaun Ellis, the remaining 10 Pats players make just over $13 mil…………that’s less than Chris Canty and Justin Tuck combined.
If the Pats win the SB, they definitely deserve it. Talk about getting more out of your players….
DCRamFan - February 4, 2012
I saw that on NFL.com. I was amazed too. Next year, their offense payroll is going skyrocket
Douglas M - February 4, 2012
I'd take Vince Jackson. Gotta have another #1 WR to succeed. And a good DT, CB and LB.
JHaier - February 4, 2012
W W F D ....
… just about any & all he wanted to do with the Titans, but couldn’t. Fix the Rams as it pertains to the front office & how it is run. The O & the D, have already given us an insight to his approach to fixing the Rams. The deadwood will be ripped up and thrown out. Which is not a bad thing going forward.. .but what do you replace them with? Youth is good ! Especially for coaching and for teaching your way or the highway ( youth ) !
VETT - February 5, 2012
When camp rolls around, it is going to be very interesting to see the contrast between Spags and Fisher
Douglas M - February 5, 2012
i think this is a prime example
Of Chop stating his opinion without trying to offend anyone.
If this was a post on TST a credible list like this would be hidden underneath a swathe of insults and inflammatory statements.
Its a shame he decided to be ‘that guy’ on here over being ‘a guy’.
Infemous - February 5, 2012 via mobile
I don't think anyone ever questioned his football acumen.
I certainly didn’t. The guy knows his shit, and unfortunately he chose the path of “insufferable blowhard dickhead” when delivering his analysis and opinions.
Oh, then claimed he reported 3k to the FCC for all his potty talk, which was absurd. Oh well. I always thought the guy should start his own blog, for real.
FailureDrill - February 5, 2012 via Android app
i think his knowledge of history was greater than his understanding of the evolution of the league and the feasibility of his ideas
that episode was hilarious. he was definitely losing it towards the end… he was making comments about being a black belt and willing to barfight people hahahahaha
why should he start his own blog though?
Infemous - February 5, 2012
Well, there's obviously an audience for his thoughts.
If he ran his own independent blog he would be free to govern the content as he sees fit and whoever wants to read him would be able to. Those that don’t wish to read won’t be forced to wade through his comments ’round these parts.
FailureDrill - February 5, 2012 via Android app
ah yes
that was the fated last day of ramchop
Hibachi40 - February 5, 2012
Did jswirb get banned? And whr The hell is chop?
kevio3000 - February 5, 2012 via Android app
jswirb didnt
But chop got banned…
RG31 - February 5, 2012 via mobile
So far Fischer seems to have a plan??
With the coach hirings & everything being hush? hush? We’ll see.
T.Hill - February 5, 2012
Greetings from Beautiful downtown Sonoyta Mexico
I have gotten plugged in for my one day of Comcast today. It has to be quick, so hello to all my old friends. No, I’m not in the slammer, just in the desert (Sonora) in a turn around house till July. I really miss all the goings on, but it is what it is. Maybe this year we can fish AND cut bait. I gotta type slow so as not to turn over my can of Coors, which is filled with coffee, I think. How ironic to hear about Chop on the same day I got access. Omen? Good work posters-I gotta go-See you all on the boards soon. P.S.—The Dos Exes guy is the janitor here.
Knoxfan - February 5, 2012
Hola, amigo! If the cerveza is warm...
You might wanna spit it out!
DCRamFan - February 5, 2012
HEY Buddy Boy!!!!
Good to hear from you!!!
dbcouver - February 5, 2012
Great to hear from you Knoxie!!!
Douglas M - February 5, 2012
Watch it around that border town
You probably don’t need to hear it but I’m gonna say it. Don’t wander into the wrong place at the wrong time. Looking forward to your return in July.
dbcouver - February 5, 2012
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