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The St. Louis Rams will likely lose Brandon Lloyd during the offseason, putting them right back at square one needing help at wide receiver.
Josh McDaniels is gone, another ghost of a failed past exorcised from Rams Park. Like most things, letting McDaniels walk away is not as simple as it sounds. His loss will have an impact on the St. Louis Rams' roster, at a position where the teams has been hurting for a long time.
As reported earlier, as the palace walls collapsed, Rams free agent wide receiver Brandon Lloyd is likely to follow McDaniels to New England. Lloyd has said as much himself, citing a certain loyalty to the coach who plucked him from obscurity. Lloyd's departure leaves the Rams without the best receiver they've had on the roster since the end the ignominious jettisoning of Torry Holt.
The Rams traded for Lloyd at the October deadline, a last ditch effort to add some talent at the position, something the last regime failed to do in what might have been its most fatal mistake. They gave up a fifth round pick for Lloyd, who caught 51 passes for 683 yards and five touchdowns in 11 games with the Rams.
So the Rams will be back at square one during the offseason, frantically searching again for help at the wide receiver position. They could franchise Lloyd, but the tag for a receiver will be somewhere in the $9 million range, eating away almost all of the projected $10 million in cap space the team will have. The crazied armchair GMs on Twitter may have already figured out a way to bolster the Rams cap to thrice that number, but I can assure you it's not that easy.
The draft will be key, and trading down from their second pick gives the Rams a couple more chances in the draft to find some help. They might also check around the free agent market, but that carries significant cap costs that rookies don't thanks to the new wage scale.
There is one silver lining in the Rams rental of Lloyd; they will receive supplemental draft pick if he signs elsewhere, which he most assuredly will. Where that pick is depends on the size of the deal Lloyd signs. The compensatory pick will also depend on what the Rams do in free agency. If they sign anyone big, that drops their return for losing Lloyd. All eyes will be on the Patriots when free agency starts to see if they do indeed pursue Lloyd. Remember, they also have to make a decision about Wes Welker, who won't come cheaply.
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I like Lloyd, and I hope he stays
it’d be one less position we’d need to address. If he does choose to go to NE, I only get that because of their consistent winning. If he’s following McDaniels around……..that’s just weird.
If he does choose to go though, I hope he calls up Ochocinco and asks him how many balls he saw last season. With their two TE’s, Welker, and Branch the NFL finally got the quiet Ochocinco it deserves. I also happen to think that, although their offense is clearly firing on all cylinders, they’d be better served addressing their atrocious defense. Then again, I don’t make those calls for a perennial playoff team
DCRamFan - January 9, 2012
I like Lloyd but his comments seemed selfish
Me versus Team.. I understand he has the drive to be great though and he is one helluva receiver.
VTramsFan - January 9, 2012
to be honest
im not afraid to lose lloyd. he doesn’t seem like a WCO type of guy and that’s what we are gonna be in next year most likely. makes wide receiver an absolute must in this draft tho . martin and floyd in a trade down would be nice
Ram_Redemption - January 9, 2012
I'm being honest when I ask this
is/would Fisher and his new OC run that offense?
DCRamFan - January 9, 2012
mcdaniels offense?
or the west coat offense? cause he is definitely more of a west coast guy and not a guy too interested with five to seven step drops,
Ram_Redemption - January 9, 2012
west coast
good stuff
DCRamFan - January 9, 2012
sam is more of a WCO guy anyway
spags was crazy to take him out of that
Ram_Redemption - January 9, 2012
I'm pretty sure WR is the least of there worries .. and
And thats pretty lame seems like Lloyd can only play good in mcdaniels offense .. it shows .. his numbers sucked till he got to St. Louis.
J.E.T.music - January 9, 2012 via mobile
Denver
He did not play that well until he went to Denver under McDaniels as HC
frankthatsrambo - January 9, 2012
I know. I was talking about this year.
J.E.T.music - January 9, 2012 via mobile
brandon lloyd -
you’re dead to me
navybluenachos33 - January 9, 2012
lmao
hit em where it hurts
Ram_Redemption - January 9, 2012
lol
navybluenachos33 - January 9, 2012
has new england even given hint that they want this guy?
burning his bridge before he sees whats on the other side… means he never wanted to come back here anyway and our only shot was mcdaniels
Ram_Redemption - January 9, 2012
The guy wants to go where he will be used a lot
If he stays here and is thrown in a run first attack he wont get used a lot. Pretty simple.
He wants to play wide receiver and be used as a wide receiver and not a blocker.
I understand where he is coming from honestly…
If we can’t keep him then oh well its about time we find our wn damn talent anyway.
Let’s see what Fisher and the scouting department is made of…
Bralidore - January 9, 2012
I know what Lloyd said, but I don't think it is a done deal yet.
A new coaching staff and GM may be able to convince Lloyd it is in his best interest to remain in St. Louis on a one year deal. We have A LOT of cap space opening next year, and Lloyd is at a point in his career where he needs to look at that “retirement” contract. I guarantee our cap space is better than the Pats.
David5264 - January 9, 2012
Why would he do a one year deal?
Tevin Broner - January 9, 2012
Why would the Pats sign him to more? Next year St. Louis has a chance to spend
some serious money in F.A. If the new staff tells him to hang with St.Louis one more year, and he will be taken care of next year, why not? He is in his thirty’s and needs to lock up one last long term deal to retire on. A team with a lot of cap space is where he could have the most potential of doing that.
David5264 - January 9, 2012
Two reasons
1. Why would he trust the new Rams brass, They could easily lie and use him this year and move on.
2. The Patriots would give him a fair deal, but they need an outside WR, because Wes Welker really is the only one who usually makes an impact, week in, and week out.
Tevin Broner - January 9, 2012
I don't see NE signing Lloyd
They have Branch who already have a good relationship with Brady and they have one hell of a duo at TE. Their passing game doesn’t need Lloyd
ChrisL951 - January 9, 2012
Odds are he goes to New England, BUT if the Rams really want to keep him,
his agent would be a fool not to convince him to listen to what they have to offer.
David5264 - January 9, 2012
Who thought Chad would be there?
Tevin Broner - January 9, 2012
He'd be basically guaranteed to make the playoffs in NE
And the money will be about the same
sergey606 - January 9, 2012 via mobile
Maybe, but the potential money isn't. I'm not saying he will stay,
but if his agent is worth anything, he will convince him to listen to a long term plan. For all we know the new regime may not even want him, but if they do, they have quite a bit to offer to convince him to stay.
David5264 - January 9, 2012
I he decides to bolt.
if he wants to go to the pats he would most likely be #4 wr. if he stays right now he could be #1 guy. but you gotta do what you gotta do.
crazy mike - January 9, 2012
What are the odds of us trading down?
Trading down means losing out on Blackmon =/
Horcrux7 - January 9, 2012
Blackmon is being seriously overrated by pretty much everyone here
is he good? yes. Is he worth a top 2 pick? no.
Josh Wehrle - January 9, 2012
Ditto
David5264 - January 9, 2012
Well with this shit draft
No one is worth a #4 pick. They should just stop the draft after 3 and continue at like 20
sergey606 - January 9, 2012 via mobile
that's a good point lol
Josh Wehrle - January 9, 2012
reiff martin or kalil will be our pick
im almost sure of that
Ram_Redemption - January 9, 2012
Keep Lloyd!!
Rams brothers, we are really thin at WR already… we need to keep Lloyd AND bring in another quality WR at least (Blackmon). It would be a mistake to let him go, it would be another hole that we would need to fill.
abiRam - January 9, 2012
Easier said then done
Using the franchise tag on him is a bad move, he won’t be happy with that. What we need to do is make him a good offer that doesn’t kill our cap space so we can work on filling other roster spots. Also have to convince him this is a team on it’s way up and he will be an important part of the offense next year
ChrisL951 - January 9, 2012
Agreed
You made excellent points but that is where the GM and coaching staff come in. They should convince Lloyd that he should stay in STL.
abiRam - January 9, 2012
Do the rams getting anything for Mcdaniels leaving?
nj_rams_fan - January 9, 2012
Nope
ChrisL951 - January 9, 2012
a shot at a real offense in 2012
DCRamFan - January 9, 2012
+1
ChrisL951 - January 9, 2012
Happy new year sam bradford.
you’re going to get your 3rd oc. in three years. maybe we can get someone who won’t go crying back to daddy for his job back. i don’t know why they need a oc. they have one in tom brady. he’s going to call his own plays anyway.
crazy mike - January 9, 2012
You're trapped in the Alaskan town that got 18 feet of snow aren't you? :-)
Douglas M - January 9, 2012
Hey Doug LA
your home is faced WEST.
Da Rookie - January 9, 2012
Why for delete?
Come on DOUG can take a better shot than that from me. Doug throws back and he will not hold a punch. That is what I like. Arrogant and ignorant devilishly evil combo..
Da Rookie - January 9, 2012
I have no idea what you are saying? What got deleted?
Douglas M - January 10, 2012
Lloyd
wants to be in a place where he will be used as more than a deep threat, which is how mcdaniels used him, and the only reason he was productive. The Patriots have no other use for him than being a deep threat because of gronkowski/hernandez and welker. I believe he has just as good a chance to stay with the rams, seeing as thats how he will be used more to his liking, than the pats
Valley Ram - January 9, 2012
Sergey?
I do not know why? I just like him…… That is weird write? Got to admit funny…
Da Rookie - January 9, 2012
Uhmm
Sergey??? Dont really get it.
Valley Ram - January 9, 2012
Ok
Im new to TST my bad lol
Valley Ram - January 9, 2012
Welcome to Turf Show Times! Don't worry if you don't understand Da Rookie. No one does! :-)
Douglas M - January 10, 2012
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