The top three spots in the draft were solidified in the first slate of games in Week 17. That included the St. Louis Rams, who have the second pick in the draft after a Colts loss. The Indianapolis Colts won the Andrew Luck sweepstakes, losing their final game of the season to end up with the first overall pick.
The outcome of the game tonight between the New York Giants and Dallas Cowboys will change the order a little too.
One of the big questions I have is whether or not the Rams can trade the second overall pick to a quarterback needy team longing for Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III, assuming he enters the draft. The Vikings would love for that to happen so that they can grab Matt Kalil, but teams could also see the Vikings pick at number three as a potential target to trade up for this year.
The 2012 NFL Draft order looks like this:
*Will be determined by coin flip
The outcome of tonight's game between the Giants and the Cowboys will also switch the order around some. If New York wins, Dallas will pick 14th and Philadelphia will have the 15th pick. If Dallas wins, Philadelphia will have the 14th pick and the Giants will pick in the 18th spot.
Lots more on the draft order at SB Nation NFL.
We're going to have a mock draft on SBNation.com tomorrow, so stay tuned for that.
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Trade down with Fins for RG3?
Brick Top - January 1, 2012
Unless they really like Matt Moore.
RAMpage28 - January 1, 2012
From what I read Moore has done enough (won last 6 of 9) to warrant a "Starting" spot next yr
But new coach new QB I know I know but with only 2 real game changing QB’s available I think they go the “Protection” route and grab an OT this year maybe DL. RB looked good for them and they have decent wideouts to help take the pressure off and the way Moore has been playing I think they take this draft to help him out next yr. And if he doesn’t work out Barkley is still up for grabs is Bray and other one hit wonders that come up every yr. So I hope the Browns choose to trade up.
SMASH44 - January 1, 2012
Looks like NY is well on it's way to winning.
RAMpage28 - January 1, 2012
I love it when the Cowboys lose
and even more when they lose badly
Notorious PSC - January 1, 2012
I couldn't care less about who wins this sunday night game
RAMpage28 - January 1, 2012
Is it just me or is
Doug Free overrated.
RAMpage28 - January 1, 2012
So many 8-8 teams!
Too bad we didn’t see that last year :/
addnon - January 1, 2012
Rams are so lucky
We dam trade dowm as far as 14th and still get reiff or martin or even blackmon. Awesome.
Light at the end of the tunnel
Ram_Redemption - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Well
Besides the losing but I’m used to that
Ram_Redemption - January 1, 2012 via mobile
If we coukd trade down to 14
And still get Blackmon I’d be one happy person..
RG31 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Honestly
At fourteen I would walk to new york myself to announce blackmon haha.long shot but very possible.floyd is perfect tgere if reiff and martin are gone
Ram_Redemption - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Flpyd would be great to
He has downfield ability and he will battle for the ball in the air. I think hes the best case senario at that spot.
RG31 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Kendall Wright is another WR I wouldn't mind getting
no matter if we pick early, mid, or late 1st round there is going to be a decent WR option
TheBirds - January 1, 2012
Either learn how to spell or use spell check and if you think Blackmon is still gonna be there at the 14th pick your'e also a dreamer.
ram-man - January 2, 2012
i think cleveland will wanna trade up for rg3 shurmer has already made comments on the kid!
kevio3000 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
hopefully we can get Thad as a throw in
TheBirds - January 1, 2012
Both of cleveland first rounders and seconds
Would help so much this year
Ram_Redemption - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Will we alternate the first and second pick with the Colts in later rounds
since we have the same record?
We did that with the second/third pick back in 2009 with KC.
ramdude - January 1, 2012
Yes
RamsFan1979 - January 2, 2012
Does anyone else
Look at robinson and feel that as soon as we cut dx, he will do the exact same?
Ram_Redemption - January 1, 2012 via mobile
I was a Mizzou fan, so I saw DX catch literally everything
don’t know what happened to his hands, but maybe he can get them back. Kinda doubt it, but I’d like to see what DX does next preseason.
TheBirds - January 1, 2012
I just liked dx when he came in last year
Needs a coach to tap into his potentiel. Who woulda thought that out ofall rams receivers the one we cut before preseason would be the best
Ram_Redemption - January 1, 2012 via mobile
i think he just needs repetitions
short preseason + his injury limits the amount he can practice. I think hands are something you need to constantly work on to stay sharp, and I’m not sure if DX will ever be able to do that.
TheBirds - January 1, 2012
you can work in hands (like julio) but you gotta have the heart and committment
if dx has the committment, maybe his health lasts and he becomes the player we think he can be. Health is a big if tho.even though this is as healthy as he’s been in some time
Ram_Redemption - January 1, 2012 via mobile
I hope he stays, I doubt other teams have a place for him with his injury troubles.
I don’t think he will ever play that many downs, but maybe he could be an interesting weapon on long passing downs.
loyal2therams - January 1, 2012
What I wouldn't give to have Victor Cruz play for the rams
TheBirds - January 1, 2012
Love that draft order
3,4,6,9 – all could mortgage to get #2 pick
3k - January 1, 2012
Exactly
Vikings are best case scenario. Then we stil get kalil
Ram_Redemption - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Why would the Vikings trade to get a QB?
They seem set with Ponder. I can see them going for Kalil, Claiborne, or Blackmon
ChrisL951 - January 1, 2012
I dnt think they believe much jn ponder
Ram_Redemption - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Why do you think that?
They played him most of the year and he did ok. Just needs more weapons for him
ChrisL951 - January 1, 2012
Cause IMHO
He had been out played by webb every chance webb got. Gotta be some doubt in minny
Ram_Redemption - January 1, 2012 via mobile
True.
RAMpage28 - January 1, 2012
imagine how crazy things could get if the Colts actually pick Griffin III over Luck
TheBirds - January 1, 2012
NOT gonna happen!
ill be honest…i wasnt at all impressed with RG3 this weekend.
Mark Jaramillo - January 2, 2012
My Mock Draft
We trade back to the browns for both picks in 1st round, falcons 2nd and next years 1st 4th and 6th
1st round- 4th overall morris claiborne Cb LSU:
Has been a shutdown machine, BPA in my opinion
1st round-21st overall Dont’a HighTower OLB BAMA: in the tackle box machine, great blitzer and is a force.
2nd round- 34th overall Alshon Jeffrey WR South Carolina: unproductive season drops Jeffrey to second, we get this much needed weapon for Bradford
2nd round- 53rd overall Chris Polk RB Washington: change of pace and future Running back.
3rd round-66th overall Dontari Poe DT Memphis: non stop noted and we need to plug up the middle.
4th Round- 98th overall Ben Habern Center OU: we need a center badly, Habern has had injuries…great pass blocker though….NEEDS A COACH!!!!, to help in run blocking.
6th Round- 162nd overall Will Blackwell OG LSU: great gaurd, great run blocker, okay pass blocker, but he can get COACHED up.
7th round- 194th overall Bryan Hendricks OLB Wyoming: another OLB for some special team purposes, he had 100 tackles this season with 2 forced fumbled and other awesome stats, my sleeper for future starter.
I just rebuilt the rams with 1 trade, HIRE ME KREONKE!!!!!! (696)-969-6969
Oh and some veterans on free agency, no major ones.
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
If Kalil makes it to 4th pick him over Claiborne
ChrisL951 - January 1, 2012
dat
Won’t happen, browns take Blackmon and vikings take kalil
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
I don't see Cleveland trading all that just to get Blackmon
I see them only making this trade if they decide McCoy isn’t the answer and go after Griffen. And I can see Vikings going for Blackmon to give Ponder more weapons
ChrisL951 - January 1, 2012
no, they give mccoy another chance...first year in that system
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
And that's why I don't see that trade
Blackmon will be there if we trade with Washington or Miami, because they will take Griffen and Vikings will take Kalil
ChrisL951 - January 1, 2012
nah
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
If that is the case then the Browns must have hired Billy D to be their GM because that trade makes no sense.
bobhugehands - January 2, 2012
no we definitely need more offense than that.
No need to draft a change of pace back in the 2nd round, Bradford will still get killed, and I doubt Jeffrey will drop that much because of unproductivity. That’s not what the scouts look at, and I get the feeling the combine will boost his stock again. We need a guaranteed contributor to the offense, and I don’t see one in this group.
loyal2therams - January 1, 2012
whose better...wright or jeffery???
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Hitting BPA, OLB, WR makes tons of sense
dunno if Jefferey is going to fall that far though.
TheBirds - January 1, 2012
then if jeffery isnt available we take wright from baylor
But some mock drafts show him in the second….I love my 21st pick so much
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
wright might not be there either, but you know what mocks this early are too hard to know anyways
I hope you are right, because your top 3 guys would do a lot for the team
TheBirds - January 1, 2012
whats good about where we are is, the top second is technacily (excuse my spelling) is the bottom 1st
I think he drops.
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Really? We draft a 260lb ILB and call him OLB and hope he can produce? Not the right pick for the team IMO.
RamsFan1979 - January 2, 2012
If I call you repeatedly will you call the cops?
RAMpage28 - January 1, 2012
thats made up number...i dont care
I’m not dumb
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Damn!
RAMpage28 - January 1, 2012
sorry :(
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
What about OT?
What about a C that has no injury history so we can count on him playing most of the season? See Hoom’ or DX if you have any doubts about drafting a player who can’t stay healthy. Pass on Jeffrey too, if you’re gonna get a WR, might as well make Blackmon your #1. Also, while I’m at it, isn’t Hightower an ILB? He’s like 260lbs so how come you draft an ILB and ask him to play outside? Why not Zach Brown at OLB?
RamsFan1979 - January 2, 2012
Random moment
I’m currently playing dead space 2 and there is a TST in here. It’s just that it happens to be some sort of public transit system.
RAMpage28 - January 1, 2012
My mock right now
1. Trade back with Cleveland, get Martin
1. Floyd
2. Best DT
2. Best OLB
3. G
4. Scat back
RG31 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
dont'a hightower!!!!!!!!!
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
chicken!!!!!!!
RG31 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Dont'a Hightower is a better prospect than Floyd and so he would be best available
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Disagree
Especially considering our needs, Floyd would make a better impact, but if he drops to the second I could see us picking him with our first second round pick.
RG31 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Alshon will already do us that favor
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Highly doubt he drops that far..
RG31 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
i think he does
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
well there are a decent amount of elite WRs in the draft
Blackmon, Jefferey, Floyd, and Wright. One of those 4 might get pushed out of the 1st.
TheBirds - January 1, 2012
Wouldnt call Wright Elite..
RG31 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Optimus Prime does
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Dont'a or Floyd depends on what you think needs more improving
32nd ranked Rush D or 32nd ranked PPG
RAMpage28 - January 1, 2012
Defense wins Divisions
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
At least a few guys on offense are coming back from injuries and we drafted 2 WRs last year
that’s not good but as far as OLB goes, we have crap like Brady Poppinga.
TheBirds - January 1, 2012
yes, if we dont resign Lloyd.....
Then I’ll change my mind….
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Poppinga sucks same with Leber.
RAMpage28 - January 1, 2012
that was what I was trying to say, he's my second least favorite player on the team
behind (of course) Justin King
TheBirds - January 1, 2012
Justin King has... "potential" At being a whipping boy.
RAMpage28 - January 1, 2012
Defense kept us in game, offense lost it for us
Offense no doubt..
RG31 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
We are ranked 8th against the pass!
Then again that’s only because we are so bad against the run….
RAMpage28 - January 1, 2012
Exactly
And with our best three cbs back, our defense should be fine with a few upgrades, our offense sucks and needs the most attention..
RG31 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Any chance Hightower (smith HA! police academy) Drops to the 2nd round
4-3 OLB’s usually aren’t picked that high.
RAMpage28 - January 1, 2012
Defense is need, plus i said alshon will drop to second
Or atleast one of the Recievers do
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Yea but in the reality probably wont happen
and we can’t just can’t on luck.
RG31 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
yeah we can, why not
I rather be lucky then good…its a risk I would be willing to take
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Yea and risk not getting a bonafide 1
I’m good…
RG31 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
do you like fishsticks?
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
NO!
RAMpage28 - January 1, 2012
ummm? why yes i do! xD
RG31 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
What are you a gay fish?
RAMpage28 - January 1, 2012
do you like putting fishsticks in your mouth?
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Yea, im not gay...
RG31 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
I bet we could pull that fishsticks joke on Doug
He lives under a fuckin rock.
RAMpage28 - January 2, 2012
Haha well with his men women you wouldnt be far off..
RG31 - January 2, 2012 via mobile
No shit.
RAMpage28 - January 2, 2012
there probably won't be that many picks between our second 1st round pick and our first 2nd round pick
so the risk isn’t that high.
I like Floyd, but I don’t think he’ll even be there when you want to take him.
TheBirds - January 1, 2012
Well we will just have to see..
RG31 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
pretty much
TheBirds - January 1, 2012
alshon in second
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Not gonna happen..
RG31 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
It is
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Everybody has a dream..
RG31 - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Martin Luther King Jr. had a dream
And it happened, Obama had a nightmare, and it happened…..Dreams come true.
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 2, 2012 via mobile
I was actually going to copy and paste the "I have a dream" speech
But it looked long and took up a lot of space.
RAMpage28 - January 2, 2012
So as not to waste it
I am going to paste it on the bottom.
RAMpage28 - January 2, 2012
Not getting the Obama part but I get the jist..
RG31 - January 2, 2012 via mobile
It looks big on the bottom too....
RAMpage28 - January 2, 2012
Obama. is. a. horrible. president.
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Disagree but dont feel like arguing..
RG31 - January 2, 2012 via mobile
me too
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Sounds good..
RG31 - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Mmmm.... Yes... Indeed....
RAMpage28 - January 2, 2012
D:
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Turn that D: Upside do... Um... Sideways
:D
RAMpage28 - January 2, 2012
Well I will argue, if you think Obama is a bad President and would vote for one those protect the wealthy idiots, then I would say you don't have enough sense to pick anything , including draft picks. Read something besides sports you idiot.
ram-man - January 2, 2012
I agree but wasnt going to take it that far xD
RG31 - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Love this mock
Rather have reiff tho but you covered all needs. Make a fan post?
Ram_Redemption - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Hmm nice idea
RG31 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
With 2 1sts, 2 2nds,2 3rds..I like
Reiff and floyd
hightower And dt
Lewis and dt
Lamichael
Ram_Redemption - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Two dts?
And I would be down with this..
RG31 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Yea two young high motor fat boys
Wnt See anybody run through that!
Ram_Redemption - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Yea, cant argue that
RG31 - January 1, 2012 via mobile
No way the rams could fuck up a trade down in this draft
…right?
Ram_Redemption - January 2, 2012 via mobile
From my limited time here
And the constant bitching of many, I think they can…
RG31 - January 2, 2012 via mobile
But our luck is changing..no more billy and spags!
Forreal if we could get aj for gm and norv as oc..that would put us on the map
Ram_Redemption - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Like the road map?
RAMpage28 - January 2, 2012
As long as that road is...
Success street. Zing
Ram_Redemption - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Boom! That shit just got responded to!
RAMpage28 - January 2, 2012
Lmao
Ram_Redemption - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Eh
Not believing it til it happens..
RG31 - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Dream I kno
Ram_Redemption - January 2, 2012 via mobile
The "I have a dream speech" In it's entrity.
WAIT WAIT WAIT! I already tried this…
RAMpage28 - January 2, 2012
You gotta put more emphasis on the eeeeaaam part
If your gonna quote the king (not justin)
Ram_Redemption - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Justin King speech in its entrity.
I’m sorry. Wait I’m making millions to be a shitty CB! I’m not sorry! BITCHES!
RAMpage28 - January 2, 2012
we said the same thing when they had shaw/zygmunt kicking rocks outta st. louis too!
Mark Jaramillo - January 2, 2012
I dont like lamichael
Pass and get an interior lineman in the 4th
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Just as a change of pace back plus a kick/punt returner
A la reggie bush
Ram_Redemption - January 1, 2012 via mobile
bush is thicker and taller
Besides, he is injury prone….
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Darren Sproles?
RAMpage28 - January 2, 2012
ohhh
i see now….He needs to add weight or he dies with one DT or Linebacker hit
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Not asking james to be barry sanders lol
Just catch some screens and return some kicks
Ram_Redemption - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Ok sproles
Perfect comparison
Ram_Redemption - January 2, 2012 via mobile
yeah
More weight needs to be added
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 2, 2012 via mobile
im on phone
Someone copy and past and do it for me….don’t take credit for what isnt yours!!!!
Thanks
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Sorry too lazy....
RAMpage28 - January 1, 2012
pretty please
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Fine....
RAMpage28 - January 1, 2012
gracias
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
That's fine I just posted that shit for you.
RAMpage28 - January 1, 2012
thanks
:D
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 1, 2012 via mobile
Aj smith for gm .. Norv turner for OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR
Quote me
Ram_Redemption - January 2, 2012 via mobile
quoted
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 2, 2012 via mobile
could you imagine if we pulled that off
Ram_Redemption - January 2, 2012 via mobile
I'd be like BLAM! FIRE AJ Smith!
RAMpage28 - January 2, 2012
I would cry deeply
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Not fans? Lol
Ram_Redemption - January 2, 2012 via mobile
I like Norv
AJ in the other hand…eh ..eh….not so much
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Same here.
RAMpage28 - January 2, 2012
if you look at the free agents we got coming up
He would probably ditch em’
RAMSALLTHEWAY - January 2, 2012 via mobile
Draft.....
What what I’ve read so far the Rams are very high on Kalil from USC as their cornerstone Left tackle to protect Bradford…. But so are the Vikings. So it seems that if the Rams do trade down to a team that is begging for RG3 the Rams then will lose out on Kalil to the Vikings. So this just may be the worse case scenario for the Rams right now, Stuck at number 2 if they really want Kalil. The Vikings then will have the best shot at trading down for a boat-load of additional draft picks for a team needing a QB.
I think it’s time the Rams trade Steven Jackson for draft picks. He’s going on 30 and we all know the history of backs turning 30. Not much left in the tank. Trade Jackson while he still has value. Then draft a RB in the third round. RBs aren’t as valuable as they once were since their carries are limited in today’s NFL. Teams need two now to share the load.
Sadly, I feel Jason Smith is a bust. Time to say g’bye to him. So an offensive line with Kalil and Saffold as young studs looking promising.
Rams should go back to the West Coast offense since Bradford seemed to thrive in that. Draft a fast WR in the 2nd round. Alshon Jeffery from South Carolina should be a target. But he most likely will be gone in the first round.
Gonna be an interesting off-season for the Rams. New HC and GM. Probably a new Offensive Coordinator as well.
Ricksome - January 2, 2012
that's what happens...
when you draft a converted TE and make him your cornerstone LT; we’re not even having this conversation if they pick the right guy the first time. ughhh. grrrr.
victorian - January 2, 2012
and Shurmur fucks us over one last time
loyal2therams - January 2, 2012
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